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titan

titan

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I'll be interested to hear this one, can't imagine we'll get many positive reviews. 2 Years ago they were KYC purgatory and from everything I've read about them from posters after that it just kept getting worse and worse to the point where it's thought they may not last much longer. Maybe someone will say otherwise here. They pulled out some of the nastiest tricks in the book when I tried to get a payout, I was eventually paid but that was over 2 years ago.
 

BigJay

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flyingillini

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I'll be interested to hear this one, can't imagine we'll get many positive reviews. 2 Years ago they were KYC purgatory and from everything I've read about them from posters after that it just kept getting worse and worse to the point where it's thought they may not last much longer. Maybe someone will say otherwise here. They pulled out some of the nastiest tricks in the book when I tried to get a payout, I was eventually paid but that was over 2 years ago.
They must be paying BMR for their rating then I assume? Ratings on these sites means 0.
 

flyingillini

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nasios

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Well, I can share with you my experience with them which was recent:

- They had great limits initially but they eliminated my stakes down to ~15eur at the majority of the events. Only to high tiers such as soccer Premier League, Bundesliga, etc the stakes are greater to ~150eur.
- They payout process was long and tiring:
1. They rejected the payout and they asked for an extra KYC which was a selfie holding my ID.
2. They rejected the 1st upload (which was a clear picture), they approved the 2nd upload.
3. I requested a new payout
4. They asked by email to confirm that it was me who requested the payment
5. They paid me

There was a 2-3 days responsing delay by them among the steps 1 to 5
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Forum rankings have meant nothing for a VERY long time - long before BetIslands and SBR showed everyone how reliable ratings are.

Most will defend and say the rating is based on financial reserves - ability to pay, not WILLINGNESS to pay or customer service. Fact is people look at these ratings and nothing else. They should do their own research - deposit small to test a book and see how well it goes.

Way too many people are simply blinded by greed. A book says 100% bonus and a decent roll - bettors asking what’s the max and jumping in. Don’t be afraid to deposit 300-500 and ask for a smaller roll if you must. Bet and if you lose - repeat until you win. Once your up a thousand or so - request a payout - see how it goes. If they delay - you know who you’re dealing with and move on.

I’ve played at plenty of places and never went back - simply because they either did not impress me or because they refused a bonus after me “winning” a few hundred. Sorry - if a few hundred dollars scares you - we are probably not a good fit. I can win/lose 5k a week easily playing 500-1k a game. The fact you only want proven losers shows you’re not a serious shop.
 

djefferis

djefferis

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I trust forums about as much as network news.

Someone told me who I should vote for - I did and as a result I lost money. Is it really on the person who told me who to trust and was wrong - or does it fall on me as an individual.

That's the problem with both forums and networks. We want to blame others because we didn't do our own research - and they count on us being lazy and doing exactly that. Sometimes it simply IS too good to be true. No one is sending out free bets to gamblers - no risk and no one is giving you a free ride without planning on taxing the hell out of someone. In the end - we all pay the rich's share of taxes one way or the other.
 

flyingillini

flyingillini

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I trust forums about as much as network news.

Someone told me who I should vote for - I did and as a result I lost money. Is it really on the person who told me who to trust and was wrong - or does it fall on me as an individual.

That's the problem with both forums and networks. We want to blame others because we didn't do our own research - and they count on us being lazy and doing exactly that. Sometimes it simply IS too good to be true. No one is sending out free bets to gamblers - no risk and no one is giving you a free ride without planning on taxing the hell out of someone. In the end - we all pay the rich's share of taxes one way or the other.
Once again , the best writer on BRM, amazing writeup!
 
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flyingillini

flyingillini

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Forum rankings have meant nothing for a VERY long time - long before BetIslands and SBR showed everyone how reliable ratings are.

Most will defend and say the rating is based on financial reserves - ability to pay, not WILLINGNESS to pay or customer service. Fact is people look at these ratings and nothing else. They should do their own research - deposit small to test a book and see how well it goes.

Way too many people are simply blinded by greed. A book says 100% bonus and a decent roll - bettors asking what’s the max and jumping in. Don’t be afraid to deposit 300-500 and ask for a smaller roll if you must. Bet and if you lose - repeat until you win. Once your up a thousand or so - request a payout - see how it goes. If they delay - you know who you’re dealing with and move on.

I’ve played at plenty of places and never went back - simply because they either did not impress me or because they refused a bonus after me “winning” a few hundred. Sorry - if a few hundred dollars scares you - we are probably not a good fit. I can win/lose 5k a week easily playing 500-1k a game. The fact you only want proven losers shows you’re not a serious shop.
Amazing writeup!!!!!
 

cunliffeiqfishlike

cunliffeiqfishlike

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I trust forums about as much as network news.

Someone told me who I should vote for - I did and as a result I lost money. Is it really on the person who told me who to trust and was wrong - or does it fall on me as an individual.

That's the problem with both forums and networks. We want to blame others because we didn't do our own research - and they count on us being lazy and doing exactly that. Sometimes it simply IS too good to be true. No one is sending out free bets to gamblers - no risk and no one is giving you a free ride without planning on taxing the hell out of someone. In the end - we all pay the rich's share of taxes one way or the other.
Making mistakes and blaming someone else, instead of making decisions yourself and being responsible for success or failure without blaming anyone. This is human nature that needs to be fought against and then we will be happy
 
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