DJ showing why LIV may just be the future

[MinnesotaFats]

Guy made half his career earnings in 4 months....

 

[samsncharge99]

Im going there to sell some cars

good for DJ

 

[Tanko]

Wow. Surprised more don't get a contract and join.

 

[stormtrooper8]

Wow. Surprised more don't get a contract and join.

It's shaky long term

And overall, it's definitely not good for the sport

On top of that you got the moral piece -- which probably isn't much of a deal breaker but not a non-factor either

 

[MinnesotaFats]

It's shaky long term

And overall, it's definitely not good for the sport

On top of that you got the moral piece -- which probably isn't much of a deal breaker but not a non-factor either

What's the moral piece?

 

[BrickJames]

And he's banging Pauline Gretzky, guy is winning

 

[Tanko]

What's the moral piece?

Wow. Minny for a guy who seems to be well read, I would have expected you to know this but then again I think you're playing coy.

American journalist Jamal Khashoggi killed by Saudi gov't. Kind of a big deal. He was killed because he had written disparagingly about the Saudi royal family. Kind of morally corrupt incident.

I won't get into how many people believe Saudis were behind 9/11.... That's another story.

 

[Bubbles]

not a bad payday. clearly money is his top priority.

 

[stormtrooper8]

Wow. Minny for a guy who seems to be well read, I would have expected you to know this but then again I think you're playing coy.

American journalist Jamal Khashoggi killed by Saudi gov't. Kind of a big deal. He was killed because he had written disparagingly about the Saudi royal family. Kind of morally corrupt incident.

I won't get into how many people believe Saudis were behind 9/11.... That's another story.

Yeah I thought he was trolling haha

 

[Bubbles]

Im going there to sell some cars

good for DJ

goos luck, looks like a best place to sell cars.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

Wow. Minny for a guy who seems to be well read, I would have expected you to know this but then again I think you're playing coy.

American journalist Jamal Khashoggi killed by Saudi gov't. Kind of a big deal. He was killed because he had written disparagingly about the Saudi royal family. Kind of morally corrupt incident.

I won't get into how many people believe Saudis were behind 9/11.... That's another story.

Yeah I'm familiar with the circumstances but Saudi Arabia doesn't have freedom of press or freedom of expression.

You are viewing the infractions and judging them thru a US/ Judea Christian POV.

That is immoral.

JK broke the law, betrayed the Royals and fled like a coward because he knew he was wrong. He's no martyr he's a fukking Joker who wouldn't stand up for what he believed in but rather tried to run & hide.

 

[Tanko]

Yeah I'm familiar with the circumstances but Saudi Arabia doesn't have freedom of press or freedom of expression.

You are viewing the infractions and judging them thru a US/ Judea Christian POV.

That is immoral.

JK broke the law, betrayed the Royals and fled like a coward because he knew he was wrong. He's no martyr he's a fukking Joker who wouldn't stand up for what he believed in but rather tried to run & hide.

OK so you say the laws in Saudi are restrictive. Fine.
He was killed in Turkey. So you're agreeing that it was OK for the Saudis to do that? WTF?

If you think that is Ok then you would have to accept that if someone in America makes a bad comment about MBS, its OK for them to kill that person as well.

Your arguements are pretty weak.

 

[stormtrooper8]

OK so you say the laws in Saudi are restrictive. Fine.
He was killed in Turkey.

Saudis always get involved where they don't belong.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

OK so you say the laws in Saudi are restrictive. Fine.
He was killed in Turkey. So you're agreeing that it was OK for the Saudis to do that? WTF?

If you think that is Ok then you would have to accept that if someone in America makes a bad comment about MBS, its OK for them to kill that person as well.

Your arguements are pretty weak.

His comments were written in a SA paper he was a often quoted dissident in. He became an enemy of the State and was a SA citizen. He fled to Turkey under the guise of a wedding to flee persecution.

Now, to suggest my arguments are weak? Why...because the US has never or orestrated assassination attempts abroad lol

Cuba, Guatemala, Iran, Pakistan, we have GitMo prison camp, etc....

It'd be foolish to view the Muslim world thru our vision, they out number us.

Watch the world cup this year. It's illegal to be gay in a Muslim country, so what's going to happen when those gay soccer fans fly pride flags in Quatar?

They're going to prison.

 

[Tanko]

His comments were written in a SA paper he was a often quoted dissident in. He became an enemy of the State and was a SA citizen. He fled to Turkey under the guise of a wedding to flee persecution.

Now, to suggest my arguments are weak? Why...because the US has never or orestrated assassination attempts abroad lol

Cuba, Guatemala, Iran, Pakistan, we have GitMo prison camp, etc....

It'd be foolish to view the Muslim world thru our vision, they out number us.

Watch the world cup this year. It's illegal to be gay in a Muslim country, so what's going to happen when those gay soccer fans fly pride flags in Quatar?

They're going to prison.

That's the moral issue Stormtrooper brought up. Killing a person in another country for an Op Ed was not a moral or justifiable act.

You're indicating that you agree that SA had the right to assassinate Jamal Khashoggi for writing Op Ed articles about MBS because, SA had a law that said they could. Wow. How can you morally agree with 1) that law, and 2) that what they did was OK. How is that morally justifiable? Just because the US does stuff (assassinations) doesn't make it morally right.

If you agree SA had that right then you would agree with the following statement...."every country, regardless of its borders, regardless of what ancient and inhuman laws they have on the books have the right to implement those laws outside their own country as they see fit and it is morally ok to do so."

That my friend is insane.

I give up. You win the argument since I can't argue with your moral code.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

That's the moral issue Stormtrooper brought up. Killing a person in another country for an Op Ed was not a moral or justifiable act.

You're indicating that you agree that SA had the right to assassinate Jamal Khashoggi for writing Op Ed articles about MBS because, SA had a law that said they could. Wow. How can you morally agree with 1) that law, and 2) that what they did was OK. How is that morally justifiable? Just because the US does stuff (assassinations) doesn't make it morally right.

If you agree SA had that right then you would agree with the following statement...."every country, regardless of its borders, regardless of what ancient and inhuman laws they have on the books have the right to implement those laws outside their own country as they see fit and it is morally ok to do so."

That my friend is insane.

I give up. You win the argument since I can't argue with your moral code.

Those are sub textual arguments.

The question is:

Do you support SA right to be a religious Monarchy and independent country that self governs.

I do.

They are no worse than China, our largest trading partner.

Do I think China or SA have a great human rights record by our standards....of course not.

But we are a country of 350mm people, there are 3 BILLION Chinese & Muslims.

Not a hill to die on...they are independent, self governed peoples who have a right to their laws and way of life. That includes law & order.

There's still Muslim women here in Minny getting their clits cut off at birth, married off by arranging w older men and forced to wear hijabs daily and I'm expected to respect that way of life on US soil, the least we can do is respect it abroad on their own soil.

 

[stormtrooper8]

That's the moral issue Stormtrooper brought up. Killing a person in another country for an Op Ed was not a moral or justifiable act.

You're indicating that you agree that SA had the right to assassinate Jamal Khashoggi for writing Op Ed articles about MBS because, SA had a law that said they could. Wow. How can you morally agree with 1) that law, and 2) that what they did was OK. How is that morally justifiable? Just because the US does stuff (assassinations) doesn't make it morally right.

If you agree SA had that right then you would agree with the following statement...."every country, regardless of its borders, regardless of what ancient and inhuman laws they have on the books have the right to implement those laws outside their own country as they see fit and it is morally ok to do so."

That my friend is insane.

I give up. You win the argument since I can't argue with your moral code.

Honestly DJ probably wouldn't have had to sell his soul to the Saudis for money if he could hit a 5 foot putt in a meaningful situation