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FILE - Former University of Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines, second from right, stands during a rally on Thursday, Jan. 12, 2023, outside of the NCAA Convention in San Antonio. Gaines was among more than a dozen college athletes who filed a lawsuit against the NCAA on Thursday, March 14, 2023, accusing it of violating their Title IX rights by allowing Lia Thomas to compete at national championships in 2022. (AP Photo/Darren Abate, File)

FILE - Former University of Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines, second from right, stands during a rally on Thursday, Jan. 12, 2023, outside of the NCAA Convention in San Antonio. Gaines was among more than a dozen college athletes who filed a lawsuit against the NCAA on Thursday, March 14, 2023, accusing it of violating their Title IX rights by allowing Lia Thomas to compete at national championships in 2022. (AP Photo/Darren Abate, File)© Provided by The Associated Press – Sports
ATLANTA (AP) — Former Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines was among more than a dozen college athletes who filed a lawsuit against the NCAA on Thursday, accusing it of violating their Title IX rights by allowing transgender woman Lia Thomas to compete at the national championships in 2022.


The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Atlanta, details the shock Gaines and other swimmers felt when they learned they would have to share a locker room with Thomas at the championships in Atlanta. It documents a number of races they swam in with Thomas, including the 200-yard final in which Thomas and Gaines tied for fifth but Thomas, not Gaines, was handed the fifth-place trophy.

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FILE- Riley Gaines, a former Kentucky swimmer and an advocate for biological women in sports, speaks during a campaign stop on gubernatorial candidate Daniel Cameron's Fight for Kentucky Bus Tour in Bowling Green, Ky., on Wednesday, Nov. 1, 2023. Gaines was among more than a dozen college athletes who filed a lawsuit against the NCAA on Thursday, March 14, 2024, accusing it of violating their Title IX rights by allowing Lia Thomas to compete at national championships in 2022. (Grace Ramey/Daily News via AP, File)

FILE- Riley Gaines, a former Kentucky swimmer and an advocate for biological women in sports, speaks during a campaign stop on gubernatorial candidate Daniel Cameron's Fight for Kentucky Bus Tour in Bowling Green, Ky., on Wednesday, Nov. 1, 2023. Gaines was among more than a dozen college athletes who filed a lawsuit against the NCAA on Thursday, March 14, 2024, accusing it of violating their Title IX rights by allowing Lia Thomas to compete at national championships in 2022. (Grace Ramey/Daily News via AP, File)© Provided by The Associated Press – Sports
Thomas swam for Pennsylvania. She competed for the men's team at Penn before her gender transition.

Another plaintiff, Tylor Mathieu of Florida, finished ninth in the preliminary heats of the 500 free, which left her one spot from swimming in the final that Thomas would go on to win. Thomas was the first openly transgender athlete to win a Division I title in any sport, finishing in front of three Olympic medalists for the championship. By not making the final, Mathieu was denied first-team All-American honors in that event.

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FILE - University of Pennsylvania athlete Lia Thomas prepares for the 500 meter freestyle event at the NCAA Swimming and Diving Championships, March 17, 2022, at Georgia Tech in Atlanta. On Friday, Dec. 8, 2023, Former Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines was among more than a dozen college athletes who filed a lawsuit against the NCAA on Thursday, March 14, 2024, accusing it of violating their Title IX rights by allowing Thomas to compete at national championships in 2022. (AP Photo/John Bazemore, File)

FILE - University of Pennsylvania athlete Lia Thomas prepares for the 500 meter freestyle event at the NCAA Swimming and Diving Championships, March 17, 2022, at Georgia Tech in Atlanta. On Friday, Dec. 8, 2023, Former Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines was among more than a dozen college athletes who filed a lawsuit against the NCAA on Thursday, March 14, 2024, accusing it of violating their Title IX rights by allowing Thomas to compete at national championships in 2022. (AP Photo/John Bazemore, File)© Provided by The Associated Press – Sports
Other plaintiffs included athletes from volleyball and track.

The lawsuit said the plaintiffs “bring this case to secure for future generations of women the promise of Title IX that is being denied them and other college women” by the NCAA.

“College sports are the premier stage for women’s sports in America, and while the NCAA does not comment on pending litigation, the Association and its members will continue to promote Title IX, make unprecedented investments in women’s sports and ensure fair competition in all NCAA championships,” the NCAA said in a statement.


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Critics contend transgender athletes have an advantage over cisgender women in competition, though extensive research is still generally lacking on elite athletics and virtually nonexistent when it comes to determining whether, for instance, a sophomore transgender girl has a clear advantage over her cisgender opponents or teammates.

In 2022, the NCAA followed the lead of the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee and revised its policies on transgender athlete participation to attempt to align with national sports governing bodies.

The third phase of the revised policy adds national and international sports governing body standards to the NCAA’s rules and is scheduled to be implemented for the 2024-25 school year.

The lawsuit also lists the University of Georgia system as a defendant because one of its schools, Georgia Tech, hosted the 2022 championships. The suit seeks to halt the NCAA from employing its transgender eligibility policies “which adversely impact female athletes in violation of Title IX" at upcoming events being held in Georgia.

Representatives from the Georgia schools said they had not been served with the lawsuit and would not comment.
 

Wagerallsports

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I still have mixed feelings on in all of this

Guys claiming to be or thinking they are girls should not be competing in female sports

But then again,there are a percentage of women who firmly believe & claim they are just as good as males are in their respective sports

So…. 🤷‍♂️
 

djefferis

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Your gender identity is yours - whatever you identify as should be accepted by others.

At the same time - regardless of what “you” feel - the individual governing bodies of sports have the right to make their own rules.

If you are transgender- they have every right to “deny” your ability to participate in their championships. Let them participate in events - but not win championships - problem solved.

If you dominate - people can make their own judgements about where you rank overall.

We do it all the time in baseball - discussing where such and such ranks all time, comparing guys from the golden era vs steroid era and players from Negro leagues vs MLB. Can easily be done comparing a trans athlete vs a non trans. It’s not denial based on sexuality - it’s denial based on physical differences and athletes born male who transition to female post puberty simply have a significant physical advantage in some sports.
 

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But then again,there are a percentage of women who firmly believe & claim they are just as good as males are in their respective sports

So…. 🤷‍♂️

link me to a quote from some female swimmers that have said anything along those lines

even if there are .01% or a few thousand dmb females that claim that

should our rational and well raised daughters be punished for those few dumb opinions?
 

Wagerallsports

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link me to a quote from some female swimmers that have said anything along those lines

even if there are .01% or a few thousand dmb females that claim that

should our rational and well raised daughters be punished for those few dumb opinions?
Can’t say I’ve heard swimmers say it

But I’ve heard WNBA players say it or suggest it many times.
Tennis players have stayed it.

You seemed to ignore my very first sentence in original post
 

DiggityDaggityDo

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I still have mixed feelings on in all of this

Guys claiming to be or thinking they are girls should not be competing in female sports

But then again,there are a percentage of women who firmly believe & claim they are just as good as males are in their respective sports

So…. 🤷‍♂️
Just wait until these chicks with dicks try to get into the WNBA.

No way the WNBA lesbians are going to allow that.

Right?
 
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