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gbets84

gbets84

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I'd like to start by saying that I'm new to this forum but not new to the boards; I also posted this at another prominent forum where I've been a long time member.

I placed a $100 future bet on the Texas Rangers to win the World Series +4500 at BetMania in November of 2022. This bet pended for 11 months. As we all know, the Rangers won the World Series and the bet was graded a winner and funds were credited. I then placed a request for a max withdrawal of $4000 via BTC on November 3rd. This is where the problems started. 10 days went by and the withdrawal request was still "in review". I called to see what was going on. They assured me it was being processed. Later that day, I check my account to see 3k had been manually wiped from my account. Here are the notes listed on the account as the "reason" for the deductions: "adjust odds to win to +3000 - incorrect line" for -1500 and "Sharp max bet on TNT(not sure what this is short for; assuming futures) is $50, sharp customer was able to bet $100, system glitch" for another -1500. These excuses are asinine and blatant theft. The line was not incorrect, +4500 was market price at that time. The "system glitch" for $100 limit is also total BS. Again, my limits had been $100 across the board for literally years (started at $500, then went to $250, then $100. everyone knows how this group is with ridiculous limits). I then received an email from a manager saying this was their final decision and that they would pay out the remainder of my account (2400ish) and then would permanently close the account. I received the remainder of my balance (minus the 3k) on 11/15.

I called and spoke with a "manager" about this on 11/16 and got the runaround. He stated this was a decision that came from the owner. He also made an off the cuff remark, something along the lines of how they've paid me out "enough" over the years which I did not appreciate. He said he'd be discussing it with the owner and would get back to me. 5 days now have passed, haven't heard anything.

I've been betting online for a long time, this is the most ridiculous blatant theft attempt by a book that I've encountered. STAY AWAY from this group! Once books start doing this type of crap it's usually the beginning of the end. I will be submitting a BMR complaint on this, if someone could help it get rectified it would certainly be appreciated.
 

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thefix

thefix

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Can't help but notice live betting and/or future bets result in all these "thefts". Might be best served doing either of those at the major books only. The mickey mouse books don't believe in people getting "lucky" and hitting long shots. Prob be happy they paid you anything at all, certainly heard worse
 

jyumni

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I think I played with them during covid-19 era prob in 2019.

Requested about 1k payout and it took like a week or so.

Their reasoning was covid-19 is slowing down the bitcoin speed or whatever.

I was like wtf?????

They payed though but after that I ran away
 

BigJay

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I wish there was a place that would advocate for you to receive your money. Unfortunately BMR doesn’t seem to be that place. And unchecked, offshore can pull stunts like this when it pleases these days.
 

gbets84

gbets84

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I received a call from Max O'Malley who said he is the head of marketing at BetMania. He apologized and said he will investigate this and will attempt to resolve it, he said he'd be back in contact with me within a few business days. We'll see what happens. I'll update the thread if/when I hear back.
 

gbets84

gbets84

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A lot of back and forth between Max by phone and a BetMania manager who is offering me lower amounts. At least they are engaging but this is beyond frustrating at this point. The bet should be honored and fully paid but that has not happened yet.
 

BigJay

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A lot of back and forth between

You should ask Max this:

 

BigJay

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Seriously, though I guess logic is out of the question with them? I’m sure they wouldn’t dare look at the odds of the top 10 books on the exact date you placed your bet and take the average and pay you that amount. It would likely be more of than 45 to 1.
 

gbets84

gbets84

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Seriously, though I guess logic is out of the question with them? I’m sure they wouldn’t dare look at the odds of the top 10 books on the exact date you placed your bet and take the average and pay you that amount. It would likely be more of than 45 to 1.
 

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BigJay

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Yes. That’s what I said in the beginning. If anything you got a bad line where many were offering 50/1 or higher. For them to say it should have been 15/1 a year ago is asinine.
 

BigJay

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@BMR Genie I know in the other thread about Jazz you said they were in contact with you guys.

I really hope BMR can advocate for this member. BetMania is toying with this guy not paying him the money he deserves on a futures bet for $100 he placed months before the Major League Baseball season started at correct odds on Texas Rangers 45/1 to win it all.
 

BigJay

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gbets84

gbets84

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You're the man BigJay! Appreciate you stepping up to the plate for me here. Sure seems like reviews do need to be taken with a grain of salt now. Since regulated books have exploded offshore seems a lot more dicey than it was a few years ago. I'd love it if BMR could get more hands on and help with this. I did get an email from them that BetMania management was looking into it, but the dispute hasnt been resolved yet
 
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