all good/Youwager delivered as promised

[djefferis]

So to start - let me say I know 2 things:

- This is not yet a “red flag” warning on the book - just a thing I’d take note of as a player and watch for future developments.

- There is absolutely no love lost between BMR management and YouWager. So take any of the rankings here with that in mind.

Anyway - recently took advantage of another generous YouWager offer - 100% FP on crypto up to $300 with 10x RO. This would be my 3rd time taking them up on this offer I believe recently and prior to that actually took their 50% LTC bonus with a lower RO/30 day hold and higher limit. Busted out on each of these deposits so they continued to extend offers.

Got on a bit of a lucky streak in the tourney and managed to run that $300 into $8800. Requested 8k via LTC and immediately got a rejected email requesting photo selfie with ID. Not unusual for new depositors/customers of course.

Whats troubling to me is simply - I last played there about 90 days ago. Took a break after cashing out last time as no bonuses available any longer (understandable) and left on good terms. Ultimately they decide to extend a bonus to an inactive player - and I take advantage - they profit and they continue to toss out offers which I accept. But I win and suddenly
It becomes a problem apparently.

Again - fully understand KYC and support that - but this isn’t that. I’d see if I was inactive for a year plus - but a few months. Feels like a case of “selective” verification of winners and an attempt to stall/keep customer in play hoping they lose it all back. Maybe not - but just my feeling at this point.

Also - will point out it’s not a case of “hit and run” meaning I didn’t just meet my RO and request 100% - I actually met that RO and kept playing giving them every opportunity to win it back. Yes - I’m aware there are lower juice options out there and the ease of withdrawals - but payouts on a Friday are a pain waiting until Monday potentially and I was doing well - plus I believe in giving the books a chance who extend offers to me. Promos work both ways - just taking the freebies and bonuses but not giving business to a shop is the easiest way to find yourself booted. I’ll give places a chance at the profitable business if they give me a chance at the same.

Also - at this point they have done nothing wrong. Can’t stress this enough . They may pay me today after reviewing the requested docs - and if they do I’ll update this thread accordingly. I just try to share honest feedback on books who sometimes don’t get that benefit. It’s clear YouWager has been taken advantage of by scam artist before - just like any bonus book/book offering deposits via methods that can be charged back. Just want to make sure I document the experience BEFORE it develops into a potential story as pulling the fire along AFTER the house is fully engulfed in flames does no good for anyone.

 

[houseofpayne09]

They paid me fine took about a day but they did clip me 2.5% on their "non-rec" fee...

 

[btcfan]

I assume you didn't have an ID on file that would have expired in that short period of time?

Just checking as I had that happen a few weeks ago out in Vegas. My license expired literally a couple days prior to the trip (Bday) and idiot me forgot to take the new one with me. At home, no biggie but out there, MGM, Caesars, Circa, no go on apps. Basically stayed in my normal offshore world for the trip, no juicy NBA props to pick off on MGM. Nevada requires a current unexpired ID to play, period. Passport would have worked but no reason to carry that within the US (normally). So, just asking. I haven't had an offshore ask as I think for them, they just want KYC to limit you to one account (clearly you don't change who you are because an ID expires). Nevada is different. I guess also, if you would win a big jackpot, you will not get paid out there with an expired ID. Not sure if you got an attorney, but sadly (or maybe gladly) I didn't have that issue to worry about! Watch that one too for car rental. Couldn't drive even with proof from the DMV it was renewed. Had to have another person on the trip drive. Will not forget that for the upcoming final four visit to Vegas.

 

[keithrichard]

If you hit a jackpot in a casino and no ID they just give you a form to pick up when you again have with you. Happened to me once. Hit a JP for 2500 and my license expired few days before this. Also I had been driving interstate with expired license. Not smart.

 

[djefferis]

Nope - my ID is good for 8 or 9 more years I think. Just got them last year and hate the DMV line so lay as long as they will let me up front.

Shows “in process” - so guessing I’m good.

No fee taken - but yea, fully expecting to get hit with the fee at some point going forward as a “non recreational” player. I have no issue if they tag you with that BEFORE you deposit - but arguing after the fact is BS. Can always bring OSGA in too - but like I said, it’s one thing to play 1 game at a book - hit a soft line and cash - it’s another to keep playing after you met a big RO and played at full juice.

We shall see - hopefully just an overly cautious person making sure I’m not on their shit-list of scammers and nothing more.

 

[ferrisdamen]

Big deal submit the ID and you're good to go. YouWager takes $1000 bets from me at decent prices and pays out quickly, in this current offshore post-up climate I think this is one of the brighter spots.

 

[djefferis]

Paid in full.

Like I said - unusual to request KYC on an existing customer each time - but nothing more to it than resubmitting a new photo.

At least it’s not BetUS video calls (yet).

 

[ferrisdamen]

So you were paid in 1 day?

Certainly have a list of sportsbooks currently where I cannot get the money out in 1 day....

 

[KVB]

Good outcome here.

@BMR Genie or @djefferis you might want to think about editing the thread title.

I can understand the idea of caution, with the KYC check, and even though you've been paid, it was still a check.

But maybe we can reflect the reduced caution as the book came through this time.

 

[houseofpayne09]

Nevada is still in the "stone age" when it comes to new sports books and ideas. The casinos here have a stranglehold on the Gaming Commission.

Youwager pays like I said but 2.5% is stiff but there are some good numbers for me it's worth it.

 

[Miz]

Youwager always pays. Solid book, been around forever. The fee is silly but they are a great reliable out with amazing MLB lines. Even limited people can usually still get out a dime.

 

[Pimike]

Youwager always pays. Solid book, been around forever. The fee is silly but they are a great reliable out with amazing MLB lines. Even limited people can usually still get out a dime.

Agree

 

[thegreatestgatsby]

They paid me fine took about a day but they did clip me 2.5% on their "non-rec" fee...

Robbery

They told me the fee was because I was positive. But they were charging me the fee before I was positive. Scumbag thieves.

 

[KVB]

Oh no, not a winner's tax!

 

[djefferis]

Robbery

They told me the fee was because I was positive. But they were charging me the fee before I was positive. Scumbag thieves.

I see it both ways honestly.

I have no idea where I stand with them - made a ton of deposits - fewer withdrawals- but when I cash it’s usually larger.

I’ve never paid the fee.

They seem to charge people who “hit and run”.

Now not that I’m a fan of the fee and their “selective enforcement” BUT after being hit 2x with a 4% fee at BetNow this month because of their small crypto limits and being forced into using other cash out methods to get my winnings - I do understand the frustration.

In the end - processing is a cost to the book - and they offer discounted MLB lines and sometimes at better than market pricing. 2.5% isn’t outrageous- even for crypto. Yea - it sucks winning and having to give some back - but in the end your winning - right ?

 

[thegreatestgatsby]

I see it both ways honestly.

I have no idea where I stand with them - made a ton of deposits - fewer withdrawals- but when I cash it’s usually larger.

I’ve never paid the fee.

They seem to charge people who “hit and run”.

Now not that I’m a fan of the fee and their “selective enforcement” BUT after being hit 2x with a 4% fee at BetNow this month because of their small crypto limits and being forced into using other cash out methods to get my winnings - I do understand the frustration.

In the end - processing is a cost to the book - and they offer discounted MLB lines and sometimes at better than market pricing. 2.5% isn’t outrageous- even for crypto. Yea - it sucks winning and having to give some back - but in the end your winning - right ?

I wouldn't mind it if it was consistent. I don't like being lied to.

The cashier says the BTC payout is free. If it's not free, don't say that it is.

 

[KVB]

I see it both ways honestly.

I have no idea where I stand with them - made a ton of deposits - fewer withdrawals- but when I cash it’s usually larger.

I’ve never paid the fee.

They seem to charge people who “hit and run”.

Now not that I’m a fan of the fee and their “selective enforcement” BUT after being hit 2x with a 4% fee at BetNow this month because of their small crypto limits and being forced into using other cash out methods to get my winnings - I do understand the frustration.

In the end - processing is a cost to the book - and they offer discounted MLB lines and sometimes at better than market pricing. 2.5% isn’t outrageous- even for crypto. Yea - it sucks winning and having to give some back - but in the end your winning - right ?

But it sounds like you have this wrong.

The 2.5% is not a processing fee, as it's being reported here.

BTC payouts have no fee, or so they say.

The 2.5% being charged was reported as a "non rec" fee...

They paid me fine took about a day but they did clip me 2.5% on their "non-rec" fee...

Very big difference than calling it a processing fee.

And in the end, it's not the same.

 

[thegreatestgatsby]

I've been able to ask for it back and sometimes they will give the 2.5% fee back, but now that I am positive they won't. It's bullshit

Looking at the BMR review for Youwager, it's rated F and the selective 2.5% winner's tax is a contributing factor why it's rated so low.

However, how tf Betwhale and Looselines is rated higher than Youwager is beyond me.

 

[djefferis]

Mention OSGA I have heard.

They advertise “free” with OSGA - so they have honored the 2.5% fee.

Like I said - I get it, you advertise something free - then hide the “rec players only” in T&C - it’s borderline misleading.

At the same time - if you call them on it - you’ll likely win the battle but lose the war (they likely would credit you back - then close your account).

 

[thegreatestgatsby]

Mention OSGA I have heard.

They advertise “free” with OSGA - so they have honored the 2.5% fee.

Like I said - I get it, you advertise something free - then hide the “rec players only” in T&C - it’s borderline misleading.

At the same time - if you call them on it - you’ll likely win the battle but lose the war (they likely would credit you back - then close your account).

I probably wouldn't risk that. But I am curious where are you finding "free with OSGA?" I went to the OSGA website and didn't see it.