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fishhead

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Good footage CHUCKY!
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Became friends with Lee Pete almost immediately upon moving to Vegas early 80's

Jim bet with me at the SANDS starting in 1988 in the wee hours of the morning (5-6am)........he got extra half point every game not on the 3 or 7, 10k limit.
 

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Lee was a tremendous guy, great memories.

Leeland C. Pete[1] (November 14, 1924 – March 25, 2010[2]) was an American sports-talk radio broadcaster. After serving as an Army Air Force pilot in World War II, he played college football as a quarterback at the University of Toledo. Pete also played baseball for the Rockets as an outfielder, and was inducted into the school's Varsity T Hall of Fame in 1986.[3][4] He tried out unsuccessfully with the Detroit Lions and Green Bay Packers of the National Football League (NFL).[2]

In 1954, Pete began his sports radio career at a small station in his hometown of Toledo, Ohio. After moving to Las Vegas in 1970,[2] he established a sports talk radio show on KDWN in 1981.[2][5][6] The 50,000-watt station had a night signal that was heard as far north as British Columbia, south to Mexico, east to the Plains, and west to some islands in the Pacific Ocean.[3][7] Pete's Stardust Line show became the longest-running sports betting show in the history of radio.[3] He also hosted a televised sports handicapping show, Proline, on cable television that was viewed in over 30 million homes.[3][8]

Pete was diagnosed with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, a.k.a. Lou Gehrig's disease, in 2005.[3] He died in Toledo on March 25, 2010. He was 85.[2]
 

chuckythegoat2

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Lee was a tremendous guy, great memories.

Leeland C. Pete[1] (November 14, 1924 – March 25, 2010[2]) was an American sports-talk radio broadcaster. After serving as an Army Air Force pilot in World War II, he played college football as a quarterback at the University of Toledo. Pete also played baseball for the Rockets as an outfielder, and was inducted into the school's Varsity T Hall of Fame in 1986.[3][4] He tried out unsuccessfully with the Detroit Lions and Green Bay Packers of the National Football League (NFL).[2]

In 1954, Pete began his sports radio career at a small station in his hometown of Toledo, Ohio. After moving to Las Vegas in 1970,[2] he established a sports talk radio show on KDWN in 1981.[2][5][6] The 50,000-watt station had a night signal that was heard as far north as British Columbia, south to Mexico, east to the Plains, and west to some islands in the Pacific Ocean.[3][7] Pete's Stardust Line show became the longest-running sports betting show in the history of radio.[3] He also hosted a televised sports handicapping show, Proline, on cable television that was viewed in over 30 million homes.[3][8]

Pete was diagnosed with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, a.k.a. Lou Gehrig's disease, in 2005.[3] He died in Toledo on March 25, 2010. He was 85.[2]
I know that Lee was respected and well-liked. That clip from 1985 had to be on the very early end of the TV handicapping shows.

Look at how primitive the analysis was. Roxy would quote things like "Nets are 60% ATS on the road"...and that was viewed as good enough to justify a play.
 

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These guys are the real gambling Hall of Famer, not clowns at Southpoint
JJ did you ever see the guys at the Stardust when they did that show?
I can't remember their names but Fishhead probably can name them all. My first trip to Vegas was at the Startdust during March Madness and we'd watch their show in person every day.
 

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JJ did you ever see the guys at the Stardust when they did that show?
I can't remember their names but Fishhead probably can name them all. My first trip to Vegas was at the Startdust during March Madness and we'd watch their show in person every day.
There's a chance that Dave Cokin and Dave Malinsky were two of the panelists. Those were two of the names back then.

When you go back and Time Travel, one thing becomes obvious to me. Think about how SOFT the line was back then. Think about how SHARP the # is today.
 

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There's a chance that Dave Cokin and Dave Malinsky were two of the panelists. Those were two of the names back then.

When you go back and Time Travel, one thing becomes obvious to me. Think about how SOFT the line was back then. Think about how SHARP the # is today.
Yep. At that time though, the lines "seemed" sharp even though they weren't. I guess because we didn't know any better. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yep. At that time though, the lines "seemed" sharp even though they weren't. I guess because we didn't know any better. :ROFLMAO:
Tank, I think about this often. You hit the nail on the head.

Bookmaking/handicapping was not that advanced. If you go back in time, "the spread" was a pretty novel concept. You can't easily find spreads that pre-date Super Bowl I.

As a bettor in that era (early 1980s), you'd look at the board and assume that the #s were razor-sharp. But they really weren't.
 

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JJ did you ever see the guys at the Stardust when they did that show?
I can't remember their names but Fishhead probably can name them all. My first trip to Vegas was at the Startdust during March Madness and we'd watch their show in person every day.
Jim Brown, Lee Pete, Donny Bader...........got to know all before starting in the business pre-1985

As fate would have it, Donny ended being a writer at the Sands when I was a supervisor/linemaker there late 80's...............in fact when mentioned Feist betting at the Sands between 5-6am Donny was the writer and I was supervisor, him and me were only two working the book between 5-7am hours.

Donny is every bit the Vegas legend of Feist and Pete.
 
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