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Why are Books Failing During Football Season?

offshorelore

offshorelore

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Hello, the following books in my opinion are essentially failing and I’d like everyone’s opinion on why. Football season is a license for them to print and I’m confused on why books like BetNow are stealing at this point.

Heritage
BetNow
Bettor’s Den

These are my biggest concerns.

I’d like the discussion to focus on heritage and BetNow now as they have been around a reasonably long amount of time.
 

titan

titan

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Money is still flowing into the entire market for football season, more than every before but now we have an underlying cycle of misery that is making this trade a lot worse for bettors with a pulse and offshore books that aren't the Big 3.

Licensed books are limiting bettors with a few brain cells and that's sending them offshore which is creating an imbalance between recs and people with a little bit of knowledge. That's eating the bottom line of offshore and in turn are either becoming insolvent or passing the pain onto us. While the stateside licensed books have created a model that keeps the recs there with shiny buttons and brainwashed marketing.

Cut to the chase - Licensed books are getting all the high margin users for them, while kicking us to the curb and then when we get to offshore which used to be a nice place for reasonably fair betting and good odds, we are finding what the above circumstances have caused.

This is also being advanced in large part to the State Governments being armed mercs for DK and Flutter, running exchanges, offshores and sweeps out of town so they look after their own tax interests.
 

offshorelore

offshorelore

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Money is still flowing into the entire market for football season, more than every before but now we have an underlying cycle of misery that is making this trade a lot worse for bettors with a pulse and offshore books that aren't the Big 3.

Licensed books are limiting bettors with a few brain cells and that's sending them offshore which is creating an imbalance between recs and people with a little bit of knowledge. That's eating the bottom line of offshore and in turn are either becoming insolvent or passing the pain onto us. While the stateside licensed books have created a model that keeps the recs there with shiny buttons and brainwashed marketing.

Cut to the chase - Licensed books are getting all the high margin users for them, while kicking us to the curb and then when we get to offshore which used to be a nice place for reasonably fair betting and good odds, we are finding what the above circumstances have caused.

This is also being advanced in large part to the State Governments being armed mercs for DK and Flutter, running exchanges, offshores and sweeps out of town so they look after their own tax interests.
Someone give Titan a crown and a degree in Offshore Casino Informative’s. Nice analysis.

However, with heritage they are very confusing. They have something to do with Bet105, and also they own WagerWeb now which has fallen off the deep end. Someone send BAUS to Costa Rica to investigate the truth
 

titan

titan

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Someone give Titan a crown and a degree in Offshore Casino Informative’s. Nice analysis.

However, with heritage they are very confusing. They have something to do with Bet105, and also they own WagerWeb now which has fallen off the deep end. Someone send BAUS to Costa Rica to investigate the truth

Bet105 isn't in what I would call the Big 3 overall but as of right now and for as long as I've used them, they take big action on Mainlines, they pay fast and they have competitively priced lines. If there was a seal of trust for books right now, they would get one. The only thing that consistently beats them on price now is Polymarket but that's still technically not legal to use inside the US.
 

offshorelore

offshorelore

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Bet105 isn't in what I would call the Big 3 overall but as of right now and for as long as I've used them, they take big action on Mainlines, they pay fast and they have competitively priced lines. If there was a seal of trust for books right now, they would get one. The only thing that consistently beats them on price now is Polymarket but that's still technically not legal to use inside the US.
Hahaha true. But then again none of this is technically legal 😉
 

jamesy2422

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heritage and it's sister wagerweb both changed their interface and other parts. wagerweb moreso. gone is the charm of both in my opinion.

i am completely out of wagerweb now as i do not like their bonus structure and how they make you ask for the 1% cash back on sportsbook volume. without asking, they don't auto deposit it weekly like they used to. that bothers me. i also do not like their live chat.

as for heritage, once i finish the RO on my latest deposit (i did the 50% for football which was 50% spread over 2 bets) i am done also. so either i go down to zero or have a balance after meeting RO. i do not like the interface and customer service.

were these books sold to someone else? sure feels that way. same with bet now. they had a fine interface and bonus structure (for me). they also had bet points awhile ago and now it is a rebate only on loses for the past year or so. just doesn't feel the same.
 
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