MyBookie stole my balance and deposit

[ben.noelflantier]

Hey there,

Pretty new to the website, so I haven't figured out everything yet. Let me know if I should post somewhere else regarding this matter.

I basically started an account about few weeks ago on mybookie.ag. I noticed they were delayed to update some bets while I was watching NHL game, so I was able to spin in goals to be scored on mybookie after watching it happen.

I realize they are in their right to void all those bets. The issue i have is:

1. They voided all the bets, including a leggit bet one I took pre-quarter in the NBA

2. They are not giving me back my deposit, which is 1.5k USD. I ran the balance up to 7.5k USD.

Do you think I have any shot at getting my deposit back and winning from leggit bet back? FYI, I also submitted an official complaint through the complaint form in January, but I haven't heard back.

Thanks!

 

[chilidog]

So you tried to scam them and you don't like how it feels to have money unfairly taken from you?

 

[BigJay]

Hey there,

Pretty new to the website, so I haven't figured out everything yet. Let me know if I should post somewhere else regarding this matter.

I basically started an account about few weeks ago on mybookie.ag. I noticed they were delayed to update some bets while I was watching NHL game, so I was able to spin in goals to be scored on mybookie after watching it happen.

I realize they are in their right to void all those bets. The issue i have is:

1. They voided all the bets, including a leggit bet one I took pre-quarter in the NBA

2. They are not giving me back my deposit, which is 1.5k USD. I ran the balance up to 7.5k USD.

Do you think I have any shot at getting my deposit back and winning from leggit bet back? FYI, I also submitted an official complaint through the complaint form in January, but I haven't heard back.

Thanks!

You took a shot

You’re admitting you took a shot

You got caught


You’ll never see a dime of that money back

 

[BigJay]

5 Dimes Tony rolling over in his grave reading this thread

 

[djefferis]

I get your new to the site - but as mentioned probably not the smartest idea to BROADCAST the fact you found an opportunity - took a shot and got busted THEN cry foul/asking for your money back plus the “legitimate” bets you made.

I mean there is a reason these books have low limits on live wagering and they constantly monitor wagering. If someone consistently was beating them while making max wagers - you must be completely stupid to think they wouldn’t catch on.

As to chances of ever getting your deposits back - unlikely and unlikely anyone would defend you in the matter. It’s called the doctrine of clean hands and is akin to trying foul when you get burned in an agreement where you went in with the intent of defrauding the other person only to get burned by the other person first.

You tried to cheat - it failed - move on and try taking a shot somewhere else and quit crying about it. Eventually you will learn your lesson and realize you’re not quicker/smarter than the books security. Sure you likely will get away with it a few times - maybe more with books with less proactive management - but eventually you will be identified and your info shared and you’ll find you don’t even get a chance to make many bets before books confiscate your deposits.

 

[ben.noelflantier]

I get what you guys are saying, but I have never seen the deposit being stolen as a result of lines being voided.

There is no way any legal or reputable licenced book would that like bet365, pinnacle, bookmaker.eu, Draftkings, etc.

Regarding the fact that I shouldn't broadcast that I found weak lines: I just thought providing the right information would help understand the case more.

I don't understand how you guys think any betting site can hold your deposit even if you spun on weak lines. There is no way any gaming commission or the curacao gaming commission allows that in the first place.

 

[baus]

Good luck with the Curaçao Gaming Commission.

BAUS

 

[sportsguy24]

Lol finding an edge is not defrauding or cheating. You guys are crazy thinking they are in the right to steal the money. Sure, I get voiding the bets. But stealing the deposit is ridiculous.

Don't have live betting if you don't want people to try and beat it.

 

[thefix]

Lol finding an edge is not defrauding or cheating. You guys are crazy thinking they are in the right to steal the money. Sure, I get voiding the bets. But stealing the deposit is ridiculous.

Don't have live betting if you don't want people to try and beat it.

Live betting is also for the people that actually watch games and want to make wagers based on what they are watching because it's entertainment. You know the guys that actually keep the lights on for books, joe public. It's not exclusive to people who try to finesse a book when they've already seen a scoring event occur. Guy blatantly tried to rip off a book that is known for bringing down the hammer on players and then wonders what happened. Everyone's a victim...

 

[chilidog]

Lol finding an edge is not defrauding or cheating. You guys are crazy thinking they are in the right to steal the money. Sure, I get voiding the bets. But stealing the deposit is ridiculous.

Don't have live betting if you don't want people to try and beat it.

He didn't have an edge. He was past-posting. He made live bets on goals that had already happened. MB's provider was slow taking down the lines. He was knowingly trying to cheat. He admitted it himself.

 

[bluejays01]

Lol finding an edge is not defrauding or cheating. You guys are crazy thinking they are in the right to steal the money. Sure, I get voiding the bets. But stealing the deposit is ridiculous.

Don't have live betting if you don't want people to try and beat it.

Betting something when the result is already determined isn’t finding an edge

Not sure you can consider it anything but trying to defraud or steal. You can try to get away with it, but you should also accept whatever the consequences are for getting caught

30 years ago you’d have all bets voided and a hospital bill much higher than $1500

 

[ben.noelflantier]

People saying " you should accept the consequences of getting caught."

Would you expect the same treatment from a licenced book like pinnacle? Bet365? Mybookie is listed as a top recommended book on this forum.

By the way, this is what not a behavior I have done over tens of games on mybookie. It was one game where I noticed it live. One.

What is the limit of those "acceptable consequences" we should expect?
What if I had deposited with my credit card, would they be allowed to charge me additional amounts to my cc because I tried to "defraud" them? I have been betting for 5 years, I have never to this day seen a book steal the deposit.

Post-event wager is the same as a broken line. Broken lines are voided, they don't make you lose your deposit.

 

[bluejays01]

People saying " you should accept the consequences of getting caught."

Would you expect the same treatment from a licenced book like pinnacle? Bet365? Mybookie is listed as a top recommended book on this forum.

By the way, this is what not a behavior I have done over tens of games on mybookie. It was one game where I noticed it live. One.

What is the limit of those "acceptable consequences" we should expect?
What if I had deposited with my credit card, would they be allowed to charge me additional amounts to my cc because I tried to "defraud" them? I have been betting for 5 years, I have never to this day seen a book steal the deposit.

Post-event wager is the same as a broken line. Broken lines are voided, they don't make you lose your deposit.

You’re not betting with a licensed shop, it’s an offshore book that doesn’t play by the same rules. They’re the judge, jury and executioner when it comes to this stuff

When you take a shot past posting or angle shooting on live lines where the outcome is already determined, you’re at their mercy if you get caught

In their eyes, you tried to steal from them and in turn they’re now stealing from you. The morality is irrelevant, these are the risks you take betting offshore

Stop playing victim and accept that you tried to screw them over and now they’re doing the same to you

 

[ben.noelflantier]

Imo, this book shouldn't be in the top recommended books on this site. Pinnacle, bookmaker, william hill to name a few all have offshore licenses, and they are all leggit and are not anywhere in the top list here.

Regardless of my situation, mybookie has horror stories everywhere online. It's not just me.

I made my peace now with losing my deposit. Just shocked that everyone here defends this website as its a personal bookie. No self-respecting book would steal your deposit, regardless of the situation, and this book should not be in the top

 

[BigJay]

Imo, this book shouldn't be in the top recommended books on this site. Pinnacle, bookmaker, william hill to name a few all have offshore licenses, and they are all leggit and are not anywhere in the top list here.

Regardless of my situation, mybookie has horror stories everywhere online. It's not just me.

I made my peace now with losing my deposit. Just shocked that everyone here defends this website as its a personal bookie. No self-respecting book would steal your deposit, regardless of the situation, and this book should not be in the top

You're past-posting, aren't you?

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[sportsguy24]

Let's say Bradley Beal gets ruled out of a game after going to the bench, but FanDuel still has one way lines up for him at 15+, 20+ points etc. I don't know that he's out and I bet those lines. Are they defrauding me then?

 

[sportsguy24]

Live betting is also for the people that actually watch games and want to make wagers based on what they are watching because it's entertainment. You know the guys that actually keep the lights on for books, joe public.

You could make that same argument for pre-game betting as well, lol.

 

[btcfan]

Terrible idea in general if you have any interest in keeping the shop you tried that at. Either what you did or betting clearly bad numbers. So likely they get voided just not worth it. And, once voided, kiss that account goodbye

 

[thegreatestgatsby]

I get your new to the site - but as mentioned probably not the smartest idea to BROADCAST the fact you found an opportunity - took a shot and got busted THEN cry foul/asking for your money back plus the “legitimate” bets you made.

I mean there is a reason these books have low limits on live wagering and they constantly monitor wagering. If someone consistently was beating them while making max wagers - you must be completely stupid to think they wouldn’t catch on.

As to chances of ever getting your deposits back - unlikely and unlikely anyone would defend you in the matter. It’s called the doctrine of clean hands and is akin to trying foul when you get burned in an agreement where you went in with the intent of defrauding the other person only to get burned by the other person first.

You tried to cheat - it failed - move on and try taking a shot somewhere else and quit crying about it. Eventually you will learn your lesson and realize you’re not quicker/smarter than the books security. Sure you likely will get away with it a few times - maybe more with books with less proactive management - but eventually you will be identified and your info shared and you’ll find you don’t even get a chance to make many bets before books confiscate your deposits.

I wouldn't call it cheating. He just played the lines that were available to him.

 

[djefferis]

I wouldn't call it cheating. He just played the lines that were available to him.

Same as saying shot taking at a bad line isn’t cheating.

So a book screws up and adds a zero to something. Say line should be -120/+100 and inadvertently gets posted as -1200/+1000 - an obvious bad line.

Ask around how books WOULDN’T consider this cheating - especially if the majority of your bets weren’t made in those mistakes. 1 time shot taker - it’s worthy of a courtesy “warning” and void. If the book keeps making mistakes and you keep taking shots - it’s on you.

Granted a book has to have some pretty sloppy management to allow this to happen - but that doesn’t make it right.

If you went into Walmart and someone kept screwing up and mispricing product at 99% below its actual cost - and you knowingly took advantage of the mistake - by law it’s “shoplifting”. No different than if you changed the price tags yourself. Same logic applies here. 1 time is very possibly “accidental” and not worthy of a confiscation - repeated offenses shows the player knew of an error and took willful advantage of it. Hard to defend someone who knowingly defrauded someone else.